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Dana
 Dana
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Mark McCain Alumni

In Gainesville, Texas in October 1862, 41 men were lynched for being or suspected of being Union sympathizers. It is the largest extra-legal or vigilante hanging in American history.

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Posted : 24/11/2019 10:55 am
Cowgirl
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Lucas McCain/The Rifleman Admin

Oh my, how terrible!


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Posted : 25/11/2019 5:02 am
wildwest
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Lucas McCain/The Rifleman Ranch Hand, Alumni

suspected?? did they have a trial?? thats wha you call.....'rough justice'

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Posted : 25/11/2019 6:53 am
Cowgirl
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A hanging tree or hangman's tree is any tree used to perform executions by hanging, especially in the United States. The term is also used colloquially in all English-speaking countries to refer to any gallows.

What kind of tree is a hanging tree?
An official Texas Historic Landmark, the Goliad Hanging Tree is a symbol of justice, Texas-style. For 24 years the court trials of Goliad County were held under this big oak tree. Death sentences were carried out promptly, usually within a few minutes, courtesy of the tree's many handy noose-worthy branches.

When was the last lynching in the US?
The lynching of Michael Donald in Mobile, Alabama on March 21, 1981, was one of the last lynchings in the United States. Several Ku Klux Klan (KKK) members beat and killed Michael Donald, a 19-year-old African-American, and hung his body from a tree.

I did see a hanging tree when I was out west. Sooky looking!


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Posted : 23/02/2020 6:45 am
wildwest
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Lucas McCain/The Rifleman Ranch Hand, Alumni

oh my gosh I wonder if the KKK gave Michael a fair trial. I wonder if people now who are going to be executed have the choice of being shot, hung or lethal injection??

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Posted : 23/02/2020 10:00 am
Dana2020
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Has everyone watched Blood Brothers? People's committees were not uncommon at the time. I am reading a book about the Great Hangings of 1862 now. To me, Lucas sounded as if People's Committees were necessary evil.

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Posted : 31/07/2020 10:33 pm
Zanza
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Gunfighter

Has everyone watched Blood Brothers? People's committees were not uncommon at the time. I am reading a book about the Great Hangings of 1862 now. To me, Lucas sounded as if People's Committees were necessary evil.

People's committees were a necessary evil out in the territories where there was no formal law. That's why people wanted statehood. You should watch Hang 'Em High. Clint Eastwood plays an innocent man who survives a lynching. He is actually hanged and left to die and a deputy marshal cuts him down and revives him. Clint becomes a deputy marshal himself. He is rather appalled at Pat Hingle's character, a hanging judge. Pat insists that he is doing as well as he can, cursing the fact his is the only court in the territory and he the only judge; and that the best way for Clint to promote justice is to help Oklahoma become a state.

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Posted : 01/08/2020 10:03 am
Zanza
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Gunfighter

oh my gosh I wonder if the KKK gave Michael a fair trial. I wonder if people now who are going to be executed have the choice of being shot, hung or lethal injection??

No, of course the KKK didn't give Michael a fair trial. Lynch mobs never give anybody a fair trial. There's never anything fair about mob justice, that's why it's so terrible. And almost invariably it's wrong. One need only look at the Internet today and see the number of times an Internet rage mob has gone after someone, only to have everything retracted later after lawsuits are filed. Nick Sandmann and Richard Jewell come to mind.

Anyway, according to the Death Penalty Database, there are only three states that allow execution by firing squad, Missouri and Oklahoma and Utah. Delaware, New Hampshire, and Washington still hang people. Alabama, Arizona, California, Mississippi, Missouri, Oklahoma, and Wyoming have the gas chamber. Note there is some overlap and in those states, a person may choose the method of execution. There are still some states with the electric chair but most states use lethal injection. I, personally, would choose a firing squad. It's quick and clean and none of the appalling accidents that occur with the other methods have occured with firing squads. Plus it's easier on the executioners. Somebody loads the guns, some with blanks and others with bullets. The loader doesn't know who gets the loaded guns. After the guns are loaded, the shooters come in and take the guns. Nobody knows who has the blanks and who has the bullets. It allows everyone involved in the execution the comfort of feeling that they didn't actually take the person's life.

And all that said, I'm completely against the death penalty myself. I've been watching Chuck's series Arrest and Trial, and he plays a defense attorney who is passionately against the death penalty, to the point that he begs the parents of a murdered child for his client's life. The client is going to be locked away for the rest of his life with no possibility of parole, that's not even in dispute, but John Egan (Chuck's character) is that desperate to save his client's life that he'll go to the parents and plead. It was quite a speech, about how an eye for an eye can never bring any comfort because the client was the dregs of humanity and the little girl he killed was bright and sensitive and beautiful. Egan talks about how it could never be a fair exchange and if his client is killed in revenge for the little girl, the parents will always feel cheated; but if they can show mercy, they will be acting in the true spirit of Christianity. And he acknowledges how unfair it is, what he's asking, and how hard it would be for the parents to be merciful.

I agreed with every word of that speech. The crown jewel in our legal system is the idea that it is better for ten guilty to go free than one innocent to be punished. That idea has been worked on and polished over centuries of trials, each one a small miracle of reason over passion. The true horror of lynch mobs, whether they're actually stringing somebody up or just destroying their lives on the Internet, is that passion is overriding reason.

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Posted : 01/08/2020 10:22 am
lilyrose
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Hmmm.... Stressful. Very stressful and sad.

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Posted : 11/08/2020 9:51 am
Dana2020
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Reputable Member Alumni

Sometime between June 1861 and March 1862, a "Mr. Hillier" was arrested for disloyalty. He agreed to join the Confederate Army. Mrs. Hillier expressed her wish that Federals would overrun Texas so her husband could stay home. Six vigilantes, either women or men dressed as women, arrived at the Hillier home and lynched Mrs. Hillier in front of her three children. No one was ever punished for this lynching. My source: Tainted Breeze:The Great Hangings at Gainesville,Texas 1862 by Richard B. McCaslin.

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Posted : 23/08/2020 12:55 pm
Zanza
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Gunfighter

Most lynchings went unpunished. Even today, when lynchings happen on the Internet and a rage mob destroys a person's life, it's very rare for anyone to be punished.

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Posted : 23/08/2020 1:07 pm
Dana2020
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About 15 years ago, I read a book about the Leo Frank case. Leo Frank was a factory foreman tried and convicted for the murder of Mary Phagan a young employee in his factory. Leo Frank was sentenced to death. Many believed Frank had been convicted for being Jewish. Governor John Slaten commuted his sentence to life imprisonment. A few months later, a mob stormed the prison and lynched Leo Frank. The majority of the lynch party were respected members of the community. No one was ever charged or convicted.

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Posted : 14/09/2020 7:47 pm
Zanza
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Gunfighter

I remember learning about the Frank case after seeing the movie The Murder of Mary Phagan. He never had a chance. He was a Jew, he was a factory owner, and worst of all, he was a Yankee. He was indicted on May 24, 1913, and convicted on August 25. His last appeal failed in the Supreme Court in April 1915, and then Governor John M Slaton commuted his sentence. He was lynched on August 16, 1915. He was posthumously pardoned by the Georgia State Board of Pardons and Paroles in 1986. The first national anti-lynching memorial, designated the Leo Frank memorial site, was placed in Georgia in 2018 by The Jewish American Society for Historic Preservation.

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Posted : 14/09/2020 8:14 pm
Dana2020
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I am paraphrasing, but Governor Slaton stated he could plant, he could how, he could farm, but he could not abide the company of a guilty conscience. Governor Slaton spoke of another governor who turned another Jew over to a mob and that governor's name is a curse.

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Posted : 15/09/2020 8:42 pm
Judy
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Micah Torrance Ranch Hand, Alumni

I am paraphrasing, but Governor Slaton stated he could plant, he could how, he could farm, but he could not abide the company of a guilty conscience. Governor Slaton spoke of another governor who turned another Jew over to a mob and that governor's name is a curse.

I have read where Governor Slaton stated that, Dana.

Do you recall if Jim Conley was never brought to trial for killing Mary Phagan?

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Posted : 15/09/2020 9:18 pm
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